
General Ernest Courtot de Cissey. He is Minister for the war during the creation of the CSG (Superior council of the War) on July 27, 1872. He seems not to have left the memory of an irreproachable man, but it is another problem…
The CSG is the organization which, since its creation (just after the defeat of 1870) chapeaute all the French military hierarchy. It is placed under the presidency of the Minister for the war and is composed of the major generals inspectors of army and of the Head of the State general major.
The CSG is obligatorily consulted for each project concerning the army. He is thus quite naturally consulted, on May 22, 1922, when the question arises of defining a new strategy of defense. The subject is so extreme that the President of the Republic (Millerand) there sits in person.
The first put question is significant:
Without going already into the details, let us say that the verbal exchanges, during this meeting, clearly clarify the divergent points of view of some of the participants.
The put question raises two debates: one on the inviolability of the territory and the other, more implicit, on the type of fortification to be considered. The divergences of the ideas which appear then during the meeting are the balls which the French Army and the Maginot Line will trail, particularly of 1935 to 1940.
It is what makes extremely interesting this CSG of May 22, 1922.
On May 22, 1922, the President of the Republic, Alexandre Millerand, chairs the meeting of the Superior council of the War. The Minister for the War, André Maginot, who has just been named at this station on January 15, is the official president of the CSG but it is the Marshal Pétain, vice-president of this Council since 1920, which animates of them the debates in the presence of the Marshals Foch and Joffre, as well as Generals Berthelot, Buat, Debeney, Guillaumat and Hellot.
President of the Republic Alexandre Millerand
Minister for the War Andre Maginot
Marshal Ferdinand Foch
Marshal Joseph Joffre
Marshal Philippe Pétain
General Henri Berthelot
General Edmond Buat
General Eugene Debeney
General Louis Guillaumat
General Frederic Hellot
The capital object of the meeting rests on this question:
Inviolability? Before 1914, and since centuries, the warlike doctrines selected are relatively simple and constant: in times of peace the Armies prepare with the war. In the event of attack they go on the battle field (with weapons and luggage), are defended, against attack…, and the best gains. The localization of the engagements, although desirable apart from the national territory, has however only little importance, the whole is to gain the victory.
However, during the war which has just finished, one noted (bitterly in the industrialized north of France) that the modern conflict is not any more one simple quarrel between armies, that it can last and thus mobilize all the lifeblood of the belligerents, soldiers and industrial. Like these forces, especially those industrial sensitive, are established on sites geologically located at the borders north and the North-East of France, it is thus appropriate from now on to prevent that a battle field does not crystallize in the vicinity of these areas. And the Pétain Marshal reveals his thought:
After the Pétain Marshal recalled what precedes, the debate becomes animated, particularly between the President of the Republic and the Minister for the War, around the form of work which this defensive organization must cover.
But after several minutes of discussion, the Foch Marshal, who did not deliver his opinion yet, speaks then. Its remark is shingling:
On this, the Joffre Marshal approves:
And the Guillaumat General precise:
This stage of the discussion the policies note the reserve, even the opposition of the soldiers [with Pétain share] to this idea of inviolability. Also the President of the Republic reformulates it the initial question in terms which can only be consensual:
Who would answer not? He thus collects the unanimous opinion and favorable participants!

Pétain marshal: it carries out the debates of the CSG more as a chief who imposes that as a person in charge who proposes.
The continuation of the debates, even more surging, becomes almost stormy because the Pétain Marshal puts the question of the nature of work to realize. Obviously he already chose a precise solution since as a conclusion he adds, not with conditional but with the future:
This assertion more political than military makes leap the Joffre Marshal who cannot admit that the system of fortification depends only on the Plan of operation because, recalls it, the Plan can change with the situation. Rétorque Pétain although in the actual position of the things one can almost indicate in advance the points on which armies will be on the defensive, like that of Longwy for example, but the Joffre Marshal in démord not:
The Pétain Marshal can only yield to these arguments, just like the President of the Republic which then requires the opinion of the Council on the need or not for completing work of permanent fortification.

Andre Maginot: a minister exceeded here by the terminology, or politically reserved?
To answer the question, about the need or not for completing work of fortification [permanent] it is important to agree on what is a fortification. Also the debate which seemed to be calmed is again animated, particularly on the distinction between permanent fortification and fortification of countryside. And the part played around the politicians, who seem exceeded by the terminology, can be interpreted as follows:
The President of the Republic:
The Hellot General:
The President of the Republic:
The Debeney General:
The President of the Republic:
The Pétain Marshal:
The Buat General is not of this opinion:
The Pétain Marshal:
The Guillaumat General approves:
The President of the Republic in cost to its question:
The Guillaumat General:
The President of the Republic:
The Buat General:
The Debeney General is not agreement with his counterpart:
Since step badly of minutes the Minister for the War seems to be put except play by the specialists who discuss and, become simple spectator, it does not go more so far as to emit any opinion. Only the President of the Republic tries to reformulate his question regularly, but in vain since he pronounces the fateful words of permanent or of countryside! Also, in fine policy, it by modifying finishes the terms of its question:
The debate is then centred. But like the Marshals Joffre and Pétain exchange again, and lengthily, their divergent points of view on the question of continuous line or not along the border, the Foch Marshal cross short estimating that:
The Berthelot General divides this opinion; the Pétain Marshal proposes to entrust the study of the relative questions to the defensive organization of the territory at a Commission to create; this proposal is voted on by the President of the Republic; it is adopted and the meeting is raised.
In the paperboards of the CSG, the CDT (Commission of Defense of the Territory) comes to be conceived and, according to any probability, a new fortification is profiled at the horizon!
This meeting of the CSG, of May 22, 1922, makes it possible to make the following reports:
It is a primarily political and demagogic concept. The shortly after the Great War, the public opinion, tired of the massacres, can only be attracted by this way which privileges the defensive; the policies are engulfed there.
For the majority of the soldiers, this inviolability passes badly because it leads to immobilize and sclerose the armies whereas the wars are gained only by the innovation and the movement.
As for the Pétain Marshal, it is all the more favorable to the concept of inviolability that it sees a means there of associating necessarily powerful defense and movement. Indeed, in 1916 it personally held Verdun in defensive. And it did not do it for lack of ardour military but while waiting to have a sufficiently strong army to be effective in the offensive.
The fortifications are very expensive. And even if mobile weaponry is also expensive, this last with the advantage of being able to be transported where the need is felt some, contrary to the fortification whose expenditure often seems to be done to no purpose.
It is thus important to strengthen only advisedly. And one is in front of a second problem which will divide to him also the men (and particularly the army) of the Thirties: where to strengthen? How to strengthen?
For which national cause that it is, why decentralization in 2007 would give it better results that in 1935?

As in all the specialized fields, each definition can be declined ad infinitum or reduced with its strict minimum. That of the fortification does not escape the rule. Without going to seek very far in time, if one refers during fortification of the captain of the Genious Bailly (1875) one notes that it defines 3 types of fortification: the permanent one, the momentary one and the provisional one (called also mixed or half-permanent). It does not give an explicit a report on the fortification of countryside.
Without wanting to play the specialists we will schematize the problem to clarify it, more especially as the contents of the definitions had a considerable incidence on construction, and especially the evolution, of the Maginot Line.
In a diagrammatic way, according to the Bailly captain, one can say that the fortification is momentary or provisional when it is built in time of war (it is what during the CSG of May 2, 1922, one names fortification of countryside) and which it is permanent when it is built in times of peace (and supposed the being with large means).
And if, in times of peace, one makes fortification with very limited resources, how calls it one? And if, as in Verdun in 1916, one makes fortification with large means? And if…
Like says it the Marshal Pétain, on May 2, 1922: perhaps should one change the definitions!
In its book entitled: The Wall of France, Lt-colonel Philippe Truttmann gives us a key of interpretation of the new terminology:

Simplified diagram of the negative evolution of the Maginot Line.
In 1927, the controversy between permanent, expensive but powerful fortification, and fortification of countryside, easy to implement at low costs [but often of poor yield], takes temporarily fine. The politicians slice. One will build a permanent fortification in three precise areas (3 strengthened areas: Metz, Lauter, Belfort) and, in addition, one will set up a fortification of countryside, through which the army will operate.
The project of the future Maginot Line is thus stopped.
But it was without taking into account holding of the fortification only of countryside which will return to the load regularly, inter alia with each budgetary reduction and each delay of construction. So that as from 1935, gaining the part, the latter will direct the Maginot Line towards the “whole countryside”, making it rock towards a fortification camelote (like Lt-colonel Philippe Truttmann writes it).
The acute fever bétonite seized France then where one built, instead of a mobile armament, heterogeneous hundreds of blockhouse whose often only appearance gave the illusion of the power of the initial productions of the Maginot Line.

Photograph of the one of the two entries of the Outpost of Pierre-Pointed. The entry is of face, framed by two huts of the external quartering, used in the absence of attack.
CSG of May 22, 1922: a determining meeting to know if one wants to include/understand the genesis and the animated evolutions of the Maginot Line.
Together participants.
How to ensure the inviolability of the territory. But to want to ensure is its inviolability, realistic?
Does one have to strengthen?
Part, in an act, played by animated soldiers, a diplomatic President and a dumb minister.
Prophetic lesson of this meeting of the CSG.
Are permanent fortification, fortification of countryside… which the differences?
Finally which will carry it, the permanent fortification or the fortification of countryside?
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